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Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 18:42
Yes let it run.
How much progress has it and how many hours is it running now?
yoyo

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Last Post By: Ritschie ON: 10.03.10 17:48
Topic By: Ritschie ON: 10.03.10 17:48
Ohne hier vorgreifen zu wollen, aber das Thema hatten wir bereits schon mal, als ich meinen Athlon XP 2400+ Rechner spenden wollte. An so alter HW besteht aufgrund der sehr geringen Effizienz verständlicherweise kein Bedarf. Ich hab in Erinnerung, dass nur an halbwegs aktuellen Quads Interesse besteht.

Verbessert mich, wenn ich mich täusche.

Gruß,
Ritschie

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Last Post By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 17:09
Topic By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 17:09
Tipp von Norman: 7zip scheint nochmal 30-40% besser zu sein als zip und ist auch für Linux verfügbar. Könnte man da bei Gelegenheit nicht zwecks weiterer Trafficreduktion auf diesen Kompressor umsteigen?

Michael.

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Topic By: ocgbargas ON: 10.03.10 16:44

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Last Post By: Crystal Pellet ON: 10.03.10 15:56
Topic By: Crystal Pellet ON: 10.03.10 15:56
I had two results with the same exit code 195 (0xc3) this morning:

http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/result.php?resultid=5889788
http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/result.php?resultid=5883512

I did the tests 1 and 2, but seem not to crash. Nevertheless the 2 results:


out1:

GMP-ECM 6.2.3 [powered by GMP 4.2.1_MPIR_1.1.1] [ECM]
Input number is 1427112451...2657179643 (58862 digits)
[Wed Mar 10 12:18:42 2010]
Using REDC
Using B1=50000, B2=15446350, polynomial x^2, sigma=964381370
dF=864, k=2, d=8190, d2=11, i0=-4
Expected number of curves to find a factor of n digits:
20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65
20 204 3115 65277 1739727 5.8e+007 2.3e+009 1.2e+011 5.1e+016 7.2e+021
Step 1 took 2649380ms
Estimated memory usage: 968M
Initializing tables of differences for F took 13993ms
Computing roots of F took 51434ms
Building F from its roots took 52884ms
Computing 1/F took 20015ms
Initializing table of differences for G took 10514ms
Computing roots of G took 51855ms
Building G from its roots took 52245ms
Computing roots of G took 53336ms
Building G from its roots took 53571ms
Computing G * H took 14274ms
Reducing G * H mod F took 21092ms
Computing polyeval(F,G) took 91385ms
Computing product of all F(g_i) took 4696ms
Step 2 took 491434ms
Expected time to find a factor of n digits:
20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65
17.31h 7.42d 113.26d 6.50y 173.27y 5766y 232812y 1e+007y 5e+012y 7e+017y


out2:

GMP-ECM 6.2.3 [powered by GMP 4.2.1_MPIR_1.1.1] [ECM]
Input number is 1427112451...2657179643 (58862 digits)
[Wed Mar 10 13:24:42 2010]
Using REDC
Using B1=50000, B2=15446350, polynomial x^2, sigma=3077640393
dF=864, k=2, d=8190, d2=11, i0=-4
Expected number of curves to find a factor of n digits:
20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65
20 204 3115 65277 1739727 5.8e+007 2.3e+009 1.2e+011 5.1e+016 7.2e+021
Step 1 took 2694465ms
Estimated memory usage: 968M
Initializing tables of differences for F took 13041ms
Computing roots of F took 52245ms
Building F from its roots took 52245ms
Computing 1/F took 21824ms
Initializing table of differences for G took 9969ms
Computing roots of G took 53102ms
Building G from its roots took 53244ms
Computing roots of G took 53056ms
Building G from its roots took 51169ms
Computing G * H took 14664ms
Reducing G * H mod F took 19579ms
Computing polyeval(F,G) took 91073ms
Computing product of all F(g_i) took 6287ms
Step 2 took 491653ms
Expected time to find a factor of n digits:
20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65
17.56h 7.53d 114.89d 6.60y 175.77y 5849y 236169y 1e+007y 5e+012y 7e+017y

If I can do some other tests, just let me know.

Regards,

CP

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Last Post By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 15:55
Topic By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 15:55

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Last Post By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 17:09
Topic By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 15:13

7zip oder bzip2 sollten höhere Kompressionsraten ermöglichen. Der Platz auf der Festplatte ist dann aber Ausgepackt trotzdem der gleiche.

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Last Post By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 15:55
Topic By: Matthias Lehmkuhl ON: 10.03.10 15:03
First: the good thing, you are using a Win XP 64 Bit, and so there are not the memory limits that are the problem for running this results on a Win 32 Bit. No chance to run this result on a 32 Bit computer.

The second: I learned, that under Windows the maximum pagefile/swapfile size at least should be 1.5 x-times of the installed RAM when you are using manual settings. In your case it should be 12 GB.

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Last Post By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 14:57
Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 14:57

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Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 14:54

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Topic By: nico ON: 10.03.10 13:43

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Topic By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 13:40
In use 85%, 90% when idle (ID 2653 - workstation running AutoCAD); 95/95 (ID 2654 - it is server station). Both machines have 8GB RAM and 2GB swap file. Leave in memory while suspended - not allowed as I have about 5 - 6 active projects and Boinc core is switching on checkpoints and time to time running panic mode (when long task with short deadline from exotic project is received - e.g. LHC, or tasks with extremely short deadline - Almere, Virtual Prairie benchmark tasks, Pirates, Wanless2, Mopac...).

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Last Post By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 14:57
Topic By: mxplm ON: 10.03.10 13:38

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Topic By: nico ON: 10.03.10 13:34
What are your preferences for "Use at most xx of memory when computer is not in use"?
Unfortunately we cannot determine the amount of memory needed by one WU in advance at the moment.
But we are looking for possible solutions.

To prevent the restarting of WUs set "Leave applications in memory while suspended" in your Boinc manager preferences - this however will be no solution for big WUs.... we are working on it.

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Last Post By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 15:55
Topic By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 13:31
I am pleased by the way you are doing RNA user friendly. I hope the RNA tasks will not need baby-sitting at short time.

I little reflection from my point of view.

Let us take as example machine ID 2653 - 4CPU Xeon 2.83GHz, 8GB RAM, 1x GPU GTX 260.

1. Simple extreme
Running only RNA + Seti CUDA.
- 4x supertask RNA as that machine tried to crunch = 4x 7GB RAM top memory load,
- 1 Seti CUDA = 0,1 GB RAM.
28GB RAM > 8GB RAM.

2. My typical
Running 25 FreeHal tasks, 2 yoyo_ecm_mp tasks, 2 RNA tasks, 1x Seti CUDA task.
- when FreeHal tasks starts (the first 10 minutes), top memory load of one task is 85 MB RAM, but top is short (3 minutes) and tasks doesn't start at the same time. Top memory load use abou 1/3 tasks at the same time = 0,7 GB RAM,
- yoyo_ecm_task takes typically 300M RAM, top memory load (5x during 2,5 hours for 5 minutes) is 1,5 GB RAM = 3GB RAM,
- 1 Seti CUDA = 0,1 GB RAM,
At that moment is used cca 4GB RAM by Boinc for other apps than RNA. System takes about 0,5 GB RAM and for RNA is less than 3,5 GB RAM free . From my point of wiev, it is enough only for "short" tasks < 3 hours, not for 10 hours tasks.

I am glad that project staff is communicating with crunchers. Nice, thanks.

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Last Post By: Ritschie ON: 10.03.10 17:48
Topic By: Jarun ON: 10.03.10 12:06
Hallo erstmal,

bin vor kurzem durch F@H auf euch aufmerksam geworden.(und direkt der Gruppe beigetreten^^)
Mein Bruder hat sich einen neuen PC gekauft und wollte den alten jetzt entsorgen und ich habe ihn den Gedanken nahelegen können ihn zu spenden.
System:
Atlon XP 1800+
768MB Ram
100MBits Netzwerkkart
Geforce 4 Graka
KEINE HDDs(möchte er nicht)

Besteht interesse an dem System?
Wäre es möglich dafür eine Spendenquitung zu erhalten?
Und wenn ja wohin soll as ganze gehen xD
Bis dann

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Last Post By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 17:09
Topic By: nico ON: 10.03.10 11:41
7zip oder bzip2 sollten höhere Kompressionsraten ermöglichen. Der Platz auf der Festplatte ist dann aber Ausgepackt trotzdem der gleiche.

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Last Post By: ocgbargas ON: 10.03.10 19:36
Topic By: ocgbargas ON: 10.03.10 11:31
Hi good morning. First apologies for not knowing English. This is translated with google translator.I have a unit like this in my i7 920. Specifically is cmd_awin64 (rfam-9.1full). This unit takes 42 hours and places that still has 31.This is normal?? As waste is often a failure of process time.A greeting

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Topic By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 11:09

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Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 11:01
Duftkerze seine WU waren 43MB gepackt!!!
Das dürften ausgepackt das 10fache sein. Daher sagte ich auch das ist einer der größten.
yoyo

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Last Post By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 17:09
Topic By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 10:47

habe gerade ne cms wu erhalten die gepackt 43,65 mb gross ist.
was steht da alles drin? gibts noch was grösseres?????

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Topic By: Michael H.W. Weber ON: 10.03.10 10:18

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Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 07:37

habe gerade ne cms wu erhalten die gepackt 43,65 mb gross ist.
was steht da alles drin? gibts noch was grösseres?????

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Topic By: yoyo ON: 10.03.10 07:37

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Topic By: duftkerze ON: 10.03.10 06:43
habe gerade ne cms wu erhalten die gepackt 43,65 mb gross ist.
was steht da alles drin? gibts noch was grösseres?????

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Last Post By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 15:55
Topic By: nenym ON: 10.03.10 00:48
I have got super cms task cms_6S7[e]_Monodelphis-domestica-(gray-short-tailed-opossum)_CM000375.lin.EMBL_f_1268067422_0_3 http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/result.php?resultid=1296446. Top memory load of that task was 7GB RAM. After 9hours crunching core switched to other application, after restarting search task it started from beginning, so I have killed it.
I mean it is not good application for Boinc if needs 7GB RAM for one task and for 10 hour task (4CPU Xeon 3,0 GHz, 8 GB RAM) has no checkpointing. If memory load were stable, it would be horrible, but acceptable. If memory load is between 0,5G - 7G RAM, it is not acceptable.

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Last Post By: MonsieurPoot ON: 10.03.10 10:13
Topic By: MonsieurPoot ON: 10.03.10 00:37
Habe gerade diese beiden CMC-Rückläufer bekommen:
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... uid=509712
http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/workuni ... uid=509793

@yoyo: Bevor ich damit anfange, könntest Du mal schauen, ob der Validierungsfehler von Serverseite aus zu beheben ist, wie bei der handvoll anderer CMC WUs gestern?

- Poot

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Last Post By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41
Topic By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41

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Topic By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:35
I sent Yoyo the latest version of the cpu specific unzipper for Linux again, he had an old one that didn't work properly yet. I also sent him the binaries for windows with this "aware" bit set.

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Last Post By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41
Topic By: Matthias Lehmkuhl ON: 09.03.10 23:29
found another page
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5868 ... -os-switch

...
Basically the IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE tells the system, "I know that addresses with the high bit set are not negative, and can handle them". If the system is prepared to provide user mode addresses above 2GB, then it will. If the system is not prepared to give those addresses (ie., a 32-bit Windows OS without the /3GB setting), the process can't get those addresses anyway - but no harm done.
...

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Last Post By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41
Topic By: cisf ON: 09.03.10 23:27

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Last Post By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41
Topic By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:19
One more thing I noticed : the archives for Linux x64 have a separate subdirectory for sse2 and there is a non-sse version under the default directory.

The sse2 version should reside in "default" and the sse2 subdirectory can be ditched.

One more thing ... the linux version of unzip_cpufeat in the server download directory seems to be not the latest version, which could be the reason for cisf's performance issues.

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Last Post By: MonsieurPoot ON: 10.03.10 10:13
Topic By: MonsieurPoot ON: 09.03.10 23:00
Ach bin ich doof.
Das hätte mir auch selbst auffallen können.

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Last Post By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 23:41
Topic By: Ananas ON: 09.03.10 22:44
creating new binaries ... will take a moment as I have to make clobber everything all the time (caused by the sse version make-scripts)


p.s.: no idea yet how to set "4GT" but this awareness thing is an option to the linker

always need a few p.s.'es : http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... 85%29.aspx so 4GT is an OS setting, not a linker issue

This means, that just making the binary 4GB aware doesn't help in x86 mode, as long as boot.ini isn't tuned.

3rd p.s.: the 64 bit cross compiler doesn't accept --large-address-aware, so it might be default for those binaries.

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Last Post By: MonsieurPoot ON: 10.03.10 10:13
Topic By: Norman ON: 09.03.10 21:54
das sind neue tRNA1